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Steve Dussemberg 03-28-2018 03:20 PM

Is $2100 a good price?
 
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I'm on a hunt for a Pullmax Nibbler and I found this P21 for $2,100.00 It has everything you see in the pics plus a few basic dies. I just started the process of finding one and I have no idea of a fair price for a machine like that, so please educate me. Is a P21 a better machine than a P3 or P5 for exemple? Is the price right for a P21 as described? Thanks guys

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Gareth Davies 03-28-2018 03:41 PM

That’s a brilliant price, if it’s a genuine sale. It’s a P21S which has the variable speed so that’s a bonus. The P21’s have a taller throat height than the other machines you mention, so it’s definitely the one to have. What are you waiting for? Go and get it now, before someone else does;);)

metal manny 03-28-2018 03:53 PM

Hi Steve.
Based on prices I've seen on ebay for P21's and P201's (same machine with some different features), which are on auction for around 25k US, $2,500 is a bargain in your territory!

I own 2 of these machines which I absolutely love. The P21 is also one of the best machines versatility-wise as it has more daylight between tool posts than other Pullmaxes. It's not the heaviest duty machine in the stable, but will work brilliantly for all the form work you'll require in metal shaping.

The one you show, which I presume is the unit you're considering, has some excellent standard tooling like the back fence and centre pieces for cutting circles etc. which is often not to be found on machines for sale - and comes at a hefty price as and when they present for sale on the net as Pullmax spares. It also seems to have a nibbler tool set installed. The covers for the motor and varispeed seem to be missing.

Check to see if the varispeed cradle is not broken, as this is a weak point on these machines - although adequately strong when used as instructed, it breaks easily if dialled without the motor running; and believe me, ignorant itching fingers often can't resist fiddling with the tensioner whilst the machine's stationary. Both mine came broken! Having said this though, it's no deal breaker as it can be easily brazed or repaired with steel sections as reinforcement.

Lastly, these machines usually run on 380 or 400 volts 3-phase, but also run happily on 220V single phase via a 220 VFD.

If you have the cash and the machine runs sweetly with no knocks in the toggle mechanism, guess you'll be clearing your workshop...:D

PM me if you would like a copy of the P21 manual.

BSG 03-28-2018 04:58 PM

That’s an awesome deal, about third of the going price!
The machine also has the tool lift feature......get that machine as fast as you can before someone else does!

Paul New 03-28-2018 06:32 PM

I would buy it!

Kerry Pinkerton 03-28-2018 06:32 PM

Buy it fast! Hell of a deal!

mr.c 03-28-2018 08:41 PM

Where did you say it was? ;>} No kidding do not hesitate. You snooze you lose.

Peter Tommasini 03-29-2018 03:59 AM

Incredibly cheap ...BUY IT !!:D
Peter

John Buchtenkirch 03-29-2018 08:44 AM

With all the P21 extra features there is a strong argument that it’s the most suitable Pullmax model for our type of work. Not all P21 had the pneumatic tool lift so you could consider that icing on the cake…….. a sweet deal for sure :):). Hopefully they will also have the center & offset tool holders, that is a nibbler die holder in the machine now. Even if you have to buy a new center tool holder :mad: you shouldn’t pass up this deal. ~ John Buchtenkirch

zekeymonkey 03-29-2018 09:05 AM

I'd buy it for that price.


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