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Old 03-10-2014, 06:25 PM
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Default Windscreen frame/surround construction on an Airline Coupe

Hi all,
I was wondering how a windcreen ash frame and its associated metalwork is arranged on a closed car of vintage style. I have a Lanchester L10 opening windscreen which I would like to incorporate in the body, as I also have an L10 bonnet and dash which will suit the build.

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Old 03-10-2014, 06:53 PM
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Martin,

Welcome to the forum.

Along with the plan and the shed.......we need some photos to help with some ideas for your project.

Airline coupe?? Early jaguar?

I just looked at your blog.....WoW!
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Old 03-11-2014, 05:53 AM
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Richard, thanks for the reply and I'm glad you liked the blog. I started that because modelmaking forums are evil places

Here's a pic of the sort of thing I want to do with the Burlington Baretta.


This particular car has a slightly humpy shape to the back like a Ford Pop, which I would correct, but you get the idea.

Here's the ultimate Airline in my view:-


Although this must take the award for the rarest:-


These are what I'm trying to emulate.

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Old 03-11-2014, 07:06 AM
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Wow, gorgeous cars. And what do you have to start with Martin?
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Old 03-11-2014, 08:50 AM
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Ah, there's the rub, Kerry. I have a chassis with body frames made and welded on and all the plywood panels that go to make up a standard Baretta like this.


Believe it or not that is largely plywood clad in flat ally panels, then adorned with GRP flowing wings moulded off an MG TD and slightly modified.

It occurred to me that with those lines, an Airline coupe back end was a distinct possibility, unlike the cost of an MG PB or NA!!

So, I could build back to the screen area, then construct a frame in ash for an aluminium Airline back end. I'd rather it were ally than GRP.

Apart from that I have, to start with,... a good eye, an indomitable belief that I can make shapes and a background in Specialbuilding and prototype car (show car) building for the Germans a few years back (SMART Coupe, current Passat, Range Rover, etc.). I also have all the necessary hand tools in a big chest, a David Gardner DVD and the use of a nearby English wheel, etc. I can get and work ash. So, there we are...what's stoppin' me?

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Old 03-11-2014, 01:03 PM
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Martin,

In the above album you can see a VA Tickford body
and on page two a Tickford bodied Bentley.
Although both are open bodies they are similar
in the rear shape to an airline coupe.

You could reconfigure the rear quarter sweeps to extend up and include the rear of the canvas top. then make it all in alloy.

I did those bodies long ago but vaguely recall the windscreens
swinging out from the top of the front door pillar on a pin
and locking in on the bottom with a drop leaf
table type mechanism.

I may have an old photo of the hardware as I use to take pics before I sent to the chrome shop as an inventory record.

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Old 03-11-2014, 01:15 PM
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Hi Ron, thanks.
I have an opening windscreen frame from a Lanchester 10 and another from I don't know what!
What I was specifically wondering was how the wood frame for the screen assembly is arranged with reference to the way the alloy "grows" out of that area. I have drawn up a basic side view of the car using as much of the Baretta shape as possible, but that is not much aft of the screen area as I need doors and none of that stuff on the back, the fuel tank and spare wheel going inside and unseen.

I would love to get to see a decent quality frame for such a car to have a really good look at how both the ash and the alloy work together in that area. Alas, round here it's all racing cars, moderns or open cars!

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