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i have been following this thread for a few days now and thought i would ask.
i use some slapper files; course and fine. i was under the understanding that they helped lightly shrink the area. also they leave nice footprints! maybe some more clarification on the uses of these? also i have always been under the understanding that the vixen file is like your guide coat. most metal only jobs that are sent my way are ones where a bodyman or hobbyist ground too much on each side or one side of a butt seam and i have to make a middle piece so it can be welded. so i am a little more fearfull then most when it comes to thin metal.
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To the second point of your question David, why are there body files? I've always been under the impression that vixen files were developed to shave and shape lead. I could be totally wrong but that is what I've always thought. I 'assumed' that the way we use them today is an evolution of the tools original purpose.
Do body files (Vixen files) predate lead work?
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Hi Dan
When you say you use an 8 inch grinder do you mean the ones that use carbourundum wheels that are about a quarter inch thick. Or do you use a sander with a course grit disc. In australia we have 9 inch grinders usually fitted with grinding or cutting discs usually used in the boiler making trade .We also have 7inch sander polishers with a rubber backing that you can screw sanding discs to they come in lots of grades from very course to fine . thanks peter d
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Kerry, thanks for the posting the pics of the vixen file collection. I only have ONE vixen file. There is a clue to my ability to use one by that revelation, LOL.
I, for one, would be greatly interested in any form of 'file' seminar at the meet if time would allow.
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Here in the UK we tend to use wooden handles (at least coachbuilders do) I once watched a program on TV about the making if the silver Arrow cars and the (presumably German) guy working on the body used what looked like a leather strap on the blade and sort of whipped it over the panel almost like a slingshot or that is how I remember it. David
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A quick look through a couple of books and in a photo of Vanden Plas works taken around 1923 there is something that looks very like a bodyfile on the bench.
I have a set of original 1936 SS100 wings in my workshop and in all the areas of the joints filing marks can clearly be seen. These are all aluminium. Here is a link to a history of file making in the UK. I thought it was interesting... http://www.wkfinetools.com/hUS-metal...deWorks-02.asp David
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made me feel old school too-but very glad my boss years ago made me at least proficient in their use.i too prefer the crisp clean accurate finish they give compared to the softer,often more radiused finish that i find sandpaper gives.
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The idea of the flipper file (slapper file to you) is to stretch the low areas up to the same level as the rest of the panel. I can't see how it could be used to shrink metal unless for heat shrinking but would not work any better than a smooth flipper for this. To planish a part to a good finish you need to be able to hit accurately in the low areas. If you are working in steel the flipper file helps you do this. There are body files other than the vixen type file. David
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