All MetalShaping

Go Back   All MetalShaping > General Metal Shaping Discussion > Basic questions and answers
  Today's Posts Posts for Last 7 Days Posts for Last 14 Days  

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #11  
Old 02-03-2015, 03:37 AM
neilb's Avatar
neilb neilb is offline
MetalShaper of the Month March 2019
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Melbourne OZ
Posts: 672
Default

seems there are ok ones and bad ones, i know i have cut 1.6mm hot rolled on the guillotine and had 1.6mm zinc coated through the press brake worked ok for me...
__________________
Neil
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 02-03-2015, 05:35 AM
Oldnek Oldnek is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Ulladulla, Australia
Posts: 1,346
Default

Just my 2cents!
I had the CM 760 from Hare and Forbes. You couldn't bend 1mm Zincanneal at full length, it distorted the sheet and just flexed the machine. It was great for small strip kind of work. No wider than 400mm
The Guillotine side was also useless, just bent and pinched in against the shear.
No matter what I did to adjust it it didn't cut the mustard.
I never used the roller...................so there is a ? mark.
You get what you pay for and your much better off going for quality.
Like you I purchased that unit on price and saw it as a entry unit into fabricating parts.
I agree price is a Big factor on doing the little stuff, but there is nothing more frustrating than doing a job and it turns out poor because of cheap equipment....
You may as well do it all by hand tools.


Good luck
__________________
John
EK Holden V8
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 02-03-2015, 06:46 AM
neilb's Avatar
neilb neilb is offline
MetalShaper of the Month March 2019
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Melbourne OZ
Posts: 672
Default

i agree john, like i said mine is ok. its not great by any standards, compared to what i have used in the past in the uk, my space is very limited so it was a choice made on available space. like everything that comes out of china its a hit and miss game. i was lucky this time!
__________________
Neil
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 02-03-2015, 08:07 AM
rivetdriver rivetdriver is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Taylor,TX
Posts: 185
Default

Hi there.
My 2 cents worth.
the cutter works ok. the bender works only on steel ,it`s radius is to sharp for aluminum.the roller on the one i was working with was junk .
the rolls were unevenly ground and it seems the pressure distribution was one sided.I would save up for separate machines at higher quality.

Hope this helps
__________________
Marcus Goetting
If it was easy -- they would do it at Walmart

www.mgcustomairframe.com
www.facebook.com/mgcustomairframe/
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 02-04-2015, 03:14 AM
Dawnbringer Dawnbringer is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 22
Default

Thank you all for sharing your personal experiences with these machines, its much appreciated!

After reading all your thoughts, I have decided to save up and buy each machine individually, it will take me longer to get them, but I think it will be worthwhile in the long run.

Thanks again.
Mick
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 02-04-2015, 06:24 AM
Richard Lennard Richard Lennard is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Exeter, Devon, UK
Posts: 295
Default

Definitely the best route.
However if you buy at the right money, then it will resell at the same money.
The one good thing of fleabay etc, is that if you are happy to buy then someone else probably will when you have done with that bit of kit.
Thats what I did, at least it meant I was up and running sooner.
To be honest, my skills were so crap that the good gear that I now have would have been wasted on me at the time!
In the meanwhile I did learn a lot, if only some of what makes equipment "not the best".
A lot of the contributors on this forum are incredibly experienced, their contributions are invaluable to the likes of me, they have learnt all of "our lessons" many years ago. A fact of life, but some people have more money than sense (I probably lack both) but they can afford the best gear at the outset.
If the gear is cheap, buy it, save up some more - the deals do turn up if you keep your eyes open. If you "dont need it", it will come to you cheaper.
Just my opinion, I couldnt have ended with the gear that I now have if I hadnt used this approach.
__________________
Richard

"Everything is in the system, if it aint working, the system aint right"
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 02-04-2015, 12:59 PM
weldtoride weldtoride is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Northern Illinois
Posts: 896
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Lennard View Post
Definitely the best route.
However if you buy at the right money, then it will resell at the same money........
Agreed. Occasionally I have even made a couple bucks when moving up to better.

Quote:
Originally Posted by neilb View Post
... like everything that comes out of china its a hit and miss game....
That's so true. Unfortunately, there are those among us here that share the blame. In order for that junk to arrive here, some buyer here first had to spec a low-ball price over all other considerations and so we get what we got.
__________________
Mark from Illinois
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:03 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.