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Old 10-21-2009, 10:36 AM
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Ok, I am just before starting on an ole 29 Ford but the body is really, REALLY bad. So what I thought about doing was breaking it all down into small parts. I've seen some of you guys lay out squares on the body they are working on with what looks like tape. I also would like to do this but I have never done that and would like to know the correct way to go about it. Any insight would be a huge help.
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Old 10-21-2009, 11:00 AM
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Chris, think you are asking about flexible shape patterns. Take a look at this link for more information on them.

http://www.allmetalshaping.com/showt...+shape+pattern

You can also do a search on flexible shape patterns for additional information.

FSP are very helpful in knowing when you have the proper shape in a panel that you are making.
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Old 10-21-2009, 02:34 PM
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That is some good information but not what I was looking for. I have seem people do like a grid, kinda like graph paper on a car with tape. Thats what I am talking about.
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That is some good information but not what I was looking for. I have seem people do like a grid, kinda like graph paper on a car with tape. Thats what I am talking about.
I have done the grid usally about 6" apart. I then take a piece of 22 gage strip about 1" wide and using my shrinker/strecher landcaster and make the strip match the contour at the grid. I number the pieces and the grid.
I hope this helps
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Oh, I get it now. The grid is the layout for sheet metal station buck.

I'm not sure you need that Chris if you have the other panels. Unless you're after perfection, you can usually get away with matching new panels up on TOP of the old except for bead lines and such. You're dealing with metal thickness differences on a 80 year old car....

Some of the more experienced shapers like David G and RodDoc might disagree and I'd go with their advice. But if I was building it, I'd probably just shape to lay on top.
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I think I even know what picture you are talking about.
It was a 40 Willy's,black with green tape if I remember right.

The tape was laid for a layout for contour gages.They still made flexible shape patterns.

The flexible shape patterns will only tell you how to put the right amount of shape into the panel.The contour gage will show you how to put the panel into its proper arrangement.

Do both and the panel will fit perfect every time,short cut it and it wont.Don't ask me how I know
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I think I even know what picture you are talking about.
It was a 40 Willy's,black with green tape if I remember right.

The tape was laid for a layout for contour gages.They still made flexible shape patterns.

The flexible shape patterns will only tell you how to put the right amount of shape into the panel.The contour gage will show you how to put the panel into its proper arrangement.

Do both and the panel will fit perfect every time,short cut it and it wont.Don't ask me how I know
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was this the car?
this is the willy's that Lazze did
lazze' willy.jpg
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he used the fiberglass body for his buck. The tape lines is where he made his shape gages fit the body.

in the first picture you can see the body they used and some of the shape gages laying on the corner of the table in the right lower corner of the shot.

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here they are trying a panel on the buck. Pretty sure they don't use flex patterns. Or didn't then.

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Old 10-22-2009, 12:18 AM
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actually i could remember at first where I saw it but yes after seeing your pictures that is where I saw it. Kerry you are right thought, I don't have to make it exact and I was actually thinking I needed to put the lines so i could match the body panels up. This will be the first time I have ever taken on a project like this so I wanted to get good habbits down at the start.

BTW I picked up the 29 tonight and got it to the shop, I will post pictures in the morning but it is in BAD shape. So with all the rust I think I could do like you said Kerry and do the parts on top and still come out VERY close because of all the rust

I have very excited about this project though because of the learning experience that I'm about to get. Plus I just ordered my anvils from Joe so other than a shrinker and stretcher I should have everything I need =)
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