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Old 02-22-2018, 11:02 AM
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Hello , my goal is to make large panels by myself. I've wheeled this panel in the center and shrunk a little around the edges. I'm struggling with the corners. I assume more stretching midway between the corners is the answer but when I wheel on the edge very little happens. Should I stay inside the "frame" or wheel off the edge? I have a TM Technologies hammer and might try a linear die on the edge.
Another battle is trying to keep the panel from curling, I've been wheeling side to side and that helps. But again I'm working alone and any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Old 02-22-2018, 12:35 PM
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curling is merely arrangement, and I pay little to no mind to it when wheeling. It happens naturally as the part falls out of the wheel. Hammer guys dont have this problem as much.

When wheeling, I mostly worry about where to put the shape, and I set arrangement when checking. I mostly use a perimeter buck to check shape/set arrangement, and I wouldnt do a panel like that without one. You can quickly clamp a potato chip to it and strictly check shape as the clamps are setting arrangement. This way you only have to set arrangement in the end once. The time you spend making a quick rectangle buck, you'll save in the end.
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Old 02-22-2018, 03:41 PM
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Thanks Steve
I made buck and templates most of the panel fits Nicely but when I push down on the corner that is up a bend from the center of the panel toward the edge develops. Sorry I don’t have a picture of the bending
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When i look at your picture, you need to add area inboard of the lower left corner. That will bring that gap down.
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looking at the first picture, try a little less pressure and keep your tracking closer together. having a wide gap between your tracking will have less shape there.
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Old 02-23-2018, 06:46 AM
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Thanks I'll wheel it up some more.

I definitely need to work on my tracking.

My head tells me to stretch the edge but when I wheel the edge it wants to curl down.
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As you are nearly there, my suggestion would be stretch the edges where the magnets are length wise only 1" in and not upto the corners, this will send the corners down. Check if these edges are tight by bending with your thumbs upwards to put a bit more curve in it.
Looking good so far, it's a big panel.
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Thanks I'll wheel it up some more.

I definitely need to work on my tracking.

My head tells me to stretch the edge but when I wheel the edge it wants to curl down.
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I will agree with Martin, wheel the area near the magnets. Use the flattest, low crown lower anvil that you have. Track parallel to the edge.
Use a flat 3 ft. steel rule, laying flat on the panel, to check if the new panel is curled down. If it is then you will need to try bending, or changing the arrangement first. If that doesn’t let the corner drop then the wheeling should.

The curling that you are referring to might be from the panel drooping.
I would have a helper support the panel.

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Old 02-24-2018, 08:52 AM
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Thanks guys,
I’ll try wheeling just the edge.
The problem is finding someone willing to help! Wheeling left to right by my self is actually working fairly well. I’m thinking about turning my wheel like in cass’ book.
I do have Kent Whites hammer but I do not have the big dies for large panels.
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