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Old 12-28-2018, 08:44 PM
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Default Saoutchik Article: M. Awadi and Olive Machine

Here's a great PDF down-loadable article on Mohamed Awadi using an olive machine in David Cooper's shop in France. When Tim Barton originally reported on "olive machines" in his metal shaping history series, he said there were only two in existence (including the one in this article which was formerly owned by Henri Chapron in Paris. However, Mohamed has told me he recently located a third one and is having it shipped to his new shop in Tunisia.


Again, great article with lots of useful photos.


https://www.coopertechnica.com/_pdf/...m_Delahaye.pdf
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I copied and pasted the link and the page was not found



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Old 12-29-2018, 12:56 AM
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I'm not sure why Marc. When I click on it, it opens correctly. I can't explain that regretfully.
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Worked fine for me. (firefox)
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Old 12-29-2018, 01:30 AM
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Really cool stuff, thanks for putting it up.
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Old 12-29-2018, 06:30 AM
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Very nice stuff there, Bill. Thanks for sharing. Except for the Olive machine and the small Piccolo, it looks like being in Jim Hery's Shop.
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Excellent article. I noticed it said that the major French builders used the 'Olive' machine. To me, that implies there were quite a few built. Many were probably destroyed during WWII. But who knows, perhaps there are even more hiding in piles of scrap in some farmers barn. If so, hopefully someone will recognize what they are before they are scrapped.
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Old 12-29-2018, 08:57 AM
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That's quite an article, Bill. Thank you for sharing.

The article mentions how there were few pictures of any given working atelier (studio), which definitely was & remains as an effective means to protect proprietary methods and works. In my field, it is no different. It's also just as common for maquettes (models) to be destroyed at the end of a working career as it is for them to be preserved. Everything would be smashed and those pieces even escorted to the dump so that no one could readily duplicate their work. Sometimes specialty equipment was also deliberately scrapped as a means of limiting the transfer of technology.

Is there record in the coach building trades of maquettes, bucks, even larger equipment (like Olive Machines) being deliberately destroyed for similar reasons?
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I think most bucks were considered "yesterday's news" and due to the very limited space in most European workshops, they weren't considered worth keeping. I know of only one original Bugatti buck that still exists...an extremely simple buck for a Type 51. Space got even more expensive as Europe recovered from WWII by the 1970s that Chapron (who was the original owner of the olive machine that Cooper has) had to move out of his Parisian workshop as did another high end carrosserie, Le Coq. They moved from northern Paris near St. Ouen across the Seine river to cheaper space north of La Defense in the suburbs.
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Very interesting read thanks for posting that Bill
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