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Old 12-17-2014, 02:17 PM
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I was hoping to get some advise on how to go about making this panel. This is my next little job its a panel from the rear of a 1953 Hudson suburban.

Most of the inner structure is repairable but the complete outer skin is rotten as you can see and needs to be replaced. Its made from 16 g. The panel with the little swage (BEAD) is 19g.






















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Old 12-17-2014, 03:22 PM
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I'd farm it out to a bloke called David Gardiner. He does brilliant stuff.
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Old 12-17-2014, 03:32 PM
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Hi David,

i think i would go like this 3 pieces...welded in the radius ...



For the beads you van make a hammerform just cut out the shape in a piece of steel and make a little tool to hammer the bead.
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Old 12-17-2014, 03:54 PM
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David, how ever you end up doing it, please post pictures. I, for one am interested in how this gets done.
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Ben,
How do you clamp your cut-out metal guide to your sheet metal? What do you put under the sheet metal. I'm about to start an Alfa Giulietta restoration and believe I'll be doing some of this on the floor pans.
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If I thought I would have anything intelligent to say, I`d go with one weld between the radii... Ben, why would welding in the radius be the better option here? Apart from the 2 welds to finish, wouldn`t it be easier to planish and finish on the flat?
Splitting the panel into parts using a 1/4 radius on each part is easier them makeing a panel with 1/2 radius on two sides...planishing can be done in the radius and it is more forgiving...

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How do you clamp your cut-out metal guide to your sheet metal? What do you put under the sheet metal. I'm about to start an Alfa Giulietta restoration and believe I'll be doing some of this on the floor pans.
Hi Bill,

i just clamped the blank (oversize) onto the hammerform then i used a rubber mallet and hit the panel with it so you start seeing where the beads are.

Then i used the little tool i made and chased the beads with it...There was nothing under the sheet metal.The tool was made for the dept i needed.

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I think this is Davids Holiday test.
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Thanks Ben that is how I planned it. I just wanted to see if anyone had any other ideas. The possible problems is the flat face distorting because of the heat of the welding.

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If I thought I would have anything intelligent to say, I`d go with one weld between the radii... Ben, why would welding in the radius be the better option here? Apart from the 2 welds to finish, wouldn`t it be easier to planish and finish on the flat?
I don't think it would be any easier to dress on the flat but now you mention it it could be done with one weld in the middle of the small flat area after forming the two radius parts, that would take the weld away from the large flat surface.

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