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troyd1 03-19-2019 08:07 PM

villlage idiot question
 
the most basics of basics. I see a lot of basic metal shapes being formed by hammer and bag, dolly, etc. I never see a finished product smooth without an english wheel. Am I right? I am new and am amazed at the talent. One other thing I never see is heating metal for bends. I know it is more kind of blacksmith but it works for heavier metals. anyway the people on here are talented and I think I have many useful projects to play with

Gojeep 03-20-2019 04:01 AM

I finish off still by hand especially if it is a large low crown piece like the bonnet I am currently building.

crystallographic 03-20-2019 02:45 PM

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Going from this smashed plated steel part:
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To this, with no sanding or filing,
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Is done by hand, with simple tools.


And this dented aluminum hood :
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Yes, hot working is part of the job - whether hot shrinking, bending, forging, -- or flattening

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old bent steel bracket, sandblasted steel
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"heat and beat" using a spring steel "flatter" (std. blacksmith tool)
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And the bracket is straight
I guess you wanted bending?
Sorry, can't find images of that .... :(

troyd1 03-21-2019 08:39 AM

thanks
 
Am trying to gain enough knowledge before I try. Love working with steel but limited experience on sheet metal. I think my first investment will be in books and dvds. But building a wheele is not out of my abilities and i thought it might help on the learning curve

crystallographic 03-21-2019 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by troyd1 (Post 154391)
Am trying to gain enough knowledge before I try. Love working with steel but limited experience on sheet metal. I think my first investment will be in books and dvds. But building a wheele is not out of my abilities and i thought it might help on the learning curve


Hi Troy,
I started with one hammer, one dolly, a file, a pair of snips, a straightedge and a tape measure.
Then I learned how to smooth with a slapper rather than a hammer - and things went faster.
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slapper over track dolly
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dents in aluminum

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smoothing by bumping up with dolly and spanking flat with slapper
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track dolly and slapper


These basic hand tools are instructed on this dvd:
https://www.tinmantech.com/products/...minum-body.php
tools are here:
https://www.tinmantech.com/products/hand-tools/
Pawn shops, yard sales, and weekend swaps are good places to hunt ofr treasures.

Always make a good thrifty Canadian offer ....:p

Gojeep 03-22-2019 04:11 AM

Here is a good video showing hand tool techniques being discussed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h93IpGFxS0

troyd1 03-22-2019 08:27 AM

thank you
 
wow the help does not stop.Thanks

troyd1 03-25-2019 07:32 PM

last one
 
i like working with stone as well as metal. do you think the hammers somewhat interchange

cliffrod 03-25-2019 07:41 PM

Depends upon what you do or mean.

I'm more familiar with stone tools and methods in a wide range of soft-to-hard varieties (see my website) than metal tools. Anytime you have stone-related questions, feel welcome to email or pm me.

troyd1 03-26-2019 09:17 PM

crossover
 
i have beat on many stones. just never fully equipped. i was asking if some metal hammers could be used for stones too. i am talking basic shaping


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