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Old 05-09-2021, 04:34 PM
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Keep in mind, the bent up edge's major intended contribution is to "trap" the center so when you wheel (or other) the metal raises to meet your sweeps.


As Kent and others have said, there is something to be said for the additional framework on larger panels, but I suspect you might be focusing a little too much on "flop" over forming.


I visited Kent's shop twice when he was rolling large panels for constructing a staircase.


He used a roller ball table to great effect. It was almost like a strategic war game, fighting it out with the 'enemy'.



I'm still puzzled how he got from where I saw to the end result. It's almost other-worldly, IYKWIM.



I still questioned whether I smelt a tinge of sulfur in the air!
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Old 05-10-2021, 08:50 AM
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Thank you. And everybody
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Keep in mind, the bent up edge's major intended contribution is to "trap" the center so when you wheel (or other) the metal raises to meet your sweeps.


As Kent and others have said, there is something to be said for the additional framework on larger panels, but I suspect you might be focusing a little too much on "flop" over forming.


I visited Kent's shop twice when he was rolling large panels for constructing a staircase.


He used a roller ball table to great effect. It was almost like a strategic war game, fighting it out with the 'enemy'.



I'm still puzzled how he got from where I saw to the end result. It's almost other-worldly, IYKWIM.



I still questioned whether I smelt a tinge of sulfur in the air!
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Old 05-13-2021, 08:09 AM
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Tack welded in place.
The sheet needs more wheeling and stretching roughly the middle outter middle area which I think is a good sign. It has lifted a few inches off the buck around the sides

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Old 05-13-2021, 08:27 AM
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Good direction. Attention, the bulge cannot be returned. Or using special tools. Watch carefully where it grows.

I ruined my big panel. But I have the tools to save it. I was surprised at how much I arched him - unnecessarily. Because I didn't have a fixed edge.

I have a bit of a problem with your fixation. It's too tight a fixation.
If you only fixed by bending the edge. You won't have to knock out the plate so much. The sheet would shorten a little and the bent edge would not hold so tightly.
But maybe you will succeed.
In any case, fixing the edges is a necessity.
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This is already lowering the arc in Eckold.
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Old 05-13-2021, 08:43 AM
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Are you shrinking the arc in the Eckold?
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Old 05-13-2021, 09:43 AM
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I had to use a tool with a central movement. To reduce arching.
The second option would be to start again on another sheet plate.



Minute 6.03 is this tool. I have bigger.


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Old 05-13-2021, 09:53 AM
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Fantastic machine. Bending angle iron wow


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I had to use a tool with a central movement. To reduce arching.
The second option would be to start again on another sheet plate.



Minute 6.03 is this tool. I have bigger.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyyoGF-HJQw
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Old 05-21-2021, 04:26 AM
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Seems to be a challenge to get someone to hold the other end of the panel, should have a friend come over on Sunday I hope.
So just wondering what you guys use for large panels if you're doing it alone? I was wondering if a table with wheels little lower than the anvil is something you guys use??
This is just an example of the idea. (Using just thin sheet as example for table top)
For a large panel that im making i would need a larger table. (This is just example of idea)

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Old 05-22-2021, 03:03 AM
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Thanks for the info.
I'd like to see more of this roller ball table

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Keep in mind, the bent up edge's major intended contribution is to "trap" the center so when you wheel (or other) the metal raises to meet your sweeps.


As Kent and others have said, there is something to be said for the additional framework on larger panels, but I suspect you might be focusing a little too much on "flop" over forming.


I visited Kent's shop twice when he was rolling large panels for constructing a staircase.


He used a roller ball table to great effect. It was almost like a strategic war game, fighting it out with the 'enemy'.



I'm still puzzled how he got from where I saw to the end result. It's almost other-worldly, IYKWIM.



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Old 05-22-2021, 06:13 AM
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Roller ball table google search

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