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Old 12-22-2021, 09:03 PM
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Patman is advertizing now that at Imperial Wheeling machines there is a 10% off sale. He has sweeps at a very attractive price, I own a set myself and use them often.
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Old 12-23-2021, 07:11 AM
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Thanks for the info. My tools are an E-Wheel, planishing hammer, shrinker/stretcher, brake, bead roller, two shot bags, hammers, and dollys, Mig welder, plasma cutter, and I just ordered the Tig welder. I also have a couple large sections of railroad track as anvils. I filled one bag with shot and the other with a material from TP Tools which is like sand, but think it’s more dense. I seem to like the shot filled bag better. I need a sweep!

All my tools are not the high end ones, they are the Eastwood or other brands. My plan is to learn on the cheaper units then sell those to the next guy who wants to learn and then move up in quality. Even being the lesser named versions, this isn’t a cheap undertaking by any means.

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Old 12-23-2021, 07:25 AM
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You're all set on tools.


The only thing I see you did wrong on your first panels was not getting enough shape into the parts. Get the parts on the bag, hammer the shape in, ( as smooth as you can get with the mallets) and then use the wheel to smooth/adjust the shapes.
To get a compound curve, you need to stretch everywhere, not just mallet taps spaced far apart.
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Old 12-23-2021, 05:33 PM
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Have a good slapper is really important too

Here is a video from Wray at Proshaper that shows an easy and inexpensive way to make one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIm1WGe9LNw&t=4s
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Old 12-24-2021, 09:07 AM
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So, I figured I'd go ahead and try and form a fender so I started with the paper pattern and I'm curious where you all would proceed from here. Would you cut that panel into two pieces or form it as one? I'm thinking one, but what do you all think?

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Cut in half for sure. Make sure to allow material to fold the edges, not just weld a flat strip on.
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Old 12-24-2021, 02:11 PM
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Dave.

1. Make a straight piece out of the paper template first. Where it can't be laid, cut with scissors.
2. Only after straightening the template will you find out what you want to do.
3. I would shape the whole length, down to the light.
The whole lane as a whole.
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Old 12-24-2021, 11:32 PM
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I would make it as it was done originally. There was a seam down the top center length. The inner length tied to the cowl and the nose. Each end was at a bias. The side was made in two halves being joined at the center of the wheel arch. If you wish to make the top in one piece, I would suggest something more like Ferrari and piece the length on the outer side about two inches above the sculpture line. Definitely stay above the sculpture line. It will turn into a mess trying to repair welding distortion if you are in the upper return of the sculpture line. If you were to be oxy-acetylene welding aluminum, a seam down the top center would give a soft panel and vulnerable to dents. This is one reason why Ferrari moved the welds outward away from top center such as on a 275 GTB. The 507 was TIG welded originally and the heat affect zone was reduced. They were heavy welds with substantial material on the backside. Do not consider trying to weld down the center of the sculpture line. You will never get the line straight from welding distortion .
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Old 12-25-2021, 05:25 PM
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Great suggestions guys, and Rick, yes, that’s what I was thinking about the weld on the top or even by the body relief line.

I may have a suitable chassis/donor car shortly which I’ll start modifying to have something to mount the body to when panels are done. Samples are back from the 3D printed parts and I should have side vents and front grilles in about a week or so. You all are an invaluable asset to me on this!!!

Merry Christmas all, and more updates this week.

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Old 12-25-2021, 05:51 PM
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Bit hard to judge scale from this far away, but it looks to be quite a long panel. If so, it would be very difficult to wheel it by yourself, so then you would need an experienced helper, or make it in two parts.

If you have looked at Peter Tomassini's movies on Youtube, you will see that he has been making very similar panels,

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